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			<title>Billll on "Why money isn&#039;t bad 2"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/why-money-isnt-bad-2#post-18259</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Billll</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey been at med school found sometime to get on the CS site.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Before I get into things I'd like to pose a question to people on the CS forums and anybody else on their. What corruption in the monetary world could be carried out in a resource based economy? any new forms of corruption could develop in a RBE setting based on TVP? Any other thoughts on it? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Alright going onto the topic of money of course I will be talking about the Zeitgeist movement. At that the Zeitgeist movement would advocate that money is bad or that what they are saying is that money is &#34;outdated&#34;. Well lets debunk this right now money isn't outdated and it's still currently in use and working very well at that :) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;People who say that money is outdated are living in a conspiracy world or a very science fiction type of world. I'm sure some logical conspiracy response from the typical zeitgeister will be... Well money is bad and outdated because in africa, in asia, in walmart, and in mexico, and people are poor as well cause of money. My response to them is get a job but not only that stop complaining about other countries and simply focus on yourself and at that take the Ghandi route and be the change you want to see in this world. If you have such a problem don't get people to join your cult, don't scream about all the problems in the world and everything that's bad because their happens to be some good things in this world as well as the bad. At that money isn't bad.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sure their is all sorts of bad things coming from money from embezzling, to ponzi schemes, to some-type of corruption with some sort of company. Their is good things as well with money such as trading skills and services for money which leads to cars being built, bridges built, roads maintained etc... To say that a resource based economy will save everything and will be perfect or is better than money is truly emphasizing the words &#34;ignorance is bliss&#34; to a key.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One point towards the venus project is.... A lot of the corruption with money we do have can be conceptually taken over and adapted towards a resource based economy. From the black markets we do have, to embezzling (might be possible to carry over to RBE), to a much broader concept which is hoarding of resources... How can one say a RBE is better than money if it's not even tested... This is like a religion in many respects it's like believing a heaven without actually going to visit before hand. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;yes again money has bad things but it also has good things as well. Money in all respect without doing much research on the topic more than likely started out as a legitimate form of payment and eventually turned into and evolved so to say tot he extent that it is today. What makes you think that RBE will not evolve into something else? This is very silly to believe it won't if you hypothetically believe that it will solve all problems for maybe 10 seconds before corruptions find it's way. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No I'm not saying their is no hope for human kind. I find that I have anarchist ideals after talking with Eric and Edward for a bit. I have lived and believed in the anarchist ideals nearly my whole life without having the word &#34;anarchist&#34; in my vocabulary. I believe things will change organically and I find RBE to be a hook line and sinker for fools and at that the zeitgeist movement is *laughable* trying to implement based on conspiracy theories is a joke. Things happen organically and gradual, we simply do not have things that will materialize resources out of air. Things will happen so gradual that no one will even notice, that if and when money gets &#34;outdated&#34; their will be no parades about it, their will be no celebrations, as it simply comes in and stays it will simply be and be accepted at that as well as hardly noticed but always used whatever it is that eliminates money. Until then money is still a great resource that has developed organically and has been proven to adapt to change it's been around for thousands of years; that's proof enough how useful, adaptive this concept is and how simple it is. Money helped us get us where we our toady and I wouldn't doubt in the next thousand years we will still be using some form of monetary exchange. I guess I expect TZm to be around for a thousand years before the change happens (just joking) and I'd expect them to have statues of Fresco and Peter Merola worshiping them as gods as well (wish I was joking about that part).  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Don't worry about the money because it isn't evil. Start doing things to better human kind. Make and build projects. Don't talk about doom and gloom when you do nothing to solve these problems once so ever; instead start doing something or your nothing but promoting Peter Merola's movies and nothing else. TZM and TVP needs to drop the RBE concept or it will be always a complete laughing stock (after doing some thought on this). Their is a reason money has lasted this wrong and that's exactly why it's still being used and not &#34;out of date&#34; like you would like people to believe in that obvious lie. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm glad to see Venus and possible TZm are supporting the open source concept which is always a good thing to be able to maybe not admit they were wrong about open source not playing a part to supporting in a way which is what RBOSE, Open Ecology has been doing from the start. Glad TZM and TVP eventually agree with RBOSE about this concept :)
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			<title>KingDavid8 on "Sun Moves 1 Degree In 3 Days After Solstice"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/sun-moves-1-degree-in-3-days-after-solstice#post-18241</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>KingDavid8</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Here's a claim made by Zeitgeist:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;And after this time (the winter solstice) on December 25th, the Sun moves 1 degree, this time north, foreshadowing longer days, warmth, and Spring. And thus it was said: the Sun died on the cross, was dead for 3 days, only to be resurrected or born again.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The one bit I'm wondering about (that CS's response to part 1 didn't address) was the claim that the sun &#34;moves 1 degree&#34; in the three days between the solstice (the 22nd) and December 25th.  Since the sun moves from -23.5 degrees on the winter solstice to +23.5 degrees on the summer solstice, totaling about 47 degrees, I find it hard to believe that the sun can move a full degree in the three days after the solstice, when it's moving its slowest.  Does anyone know how much it actually does move in the three days after the solstice?  I tried googling the answer, but can't find anything but other Christ-myther websites that repeat the &#34;1 degree&#34; claim.  Any help would be appreciated.
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			<title>Matt on "What does this even mean?"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/what-does-this-even-mean#post-15770</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Arcane stuff, for those with the &#34;Eyes To See&#34; the meaning:&#60;br /&#62;
&#34;As Above, So Below&#34;&#60;br /&#62;
Wizard of OZ mind programming, OZ = 77 in Gematria,&#60;br /&#62;
Theosophy&#60;br /&#62;
7 gods of the 7 days of the week (Sun-Moon-Mars-Mercury-Jupiter-Venus-Saturn).&#60;br /&#62;
Saturday: Saturn (Satan) Mineral Age, the Tin Man&#60;br /&#62;
Sunday: Sun god (Jesus-Fish Age of Pisces) Vegetable Age, the Scarecrow&#60;br /&#62;
Monday: Moon God (Jehovah Baal Osiris Allah) Animal Age, the Lion.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Remember 9/11? Ordo Ab Chao.&#60;br /&#62;
175 = Venus-Lucifera (of the Pentacle Star, reference &#34;Magic Square&#34;)&#60;br /&#62;
47th Proposition of Euclid (Re: Pythagorus):&#60;br /&#62;
3 = Osiris (Moon god) 3x3=9&#60;br /&#62;
4 = Isis (Venus &#34;the bearer of light&#34; Mother Mary) 4x4=16&#60;br /&#62;
5 = Horus (Jesus, Crucified on Crux) 5x5=25&#60;br /&#62;
9+16=25&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A = 1, G = 7, K = 11&#60;br /&#62;
AA11 (1111)&#60;br /&#62;
G7, G77 (77, 777)&#60;br /&#62;
KKK (11,11,11) (Pike)&#60;br /&#62;
Liber OZ 77 (Crowley)&#60;br /&#62;
93/93&#60;br /&#62;
A.'.A.'. Thelema&#60;br /&#62;
Washington DC, located a sacred 77 degrees Longitude East of London Zero.&#60;br /&#62;
77 divided by 2 = 38.5 degrees Latitude North.&#60;br /&#62;
The Pentagon is at the Heart of a Pentacle.&#60;br /&#62;
5 rings, 5 floors, 5 sides, 77 feet tall.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;None are more hopelessly oppressed than those who falsely believe they are free.&#34; - Goethe (Illuminatus). &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.amazon.com/review/R3LDTDRK5RCFTZ/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?ie=UTF8&#38;amp;cdMsgNo=3&#38;amp;cdPage=1&#38;amp;asin=0966016548&#38;amp;store=books&#38;amp;cdSort=oldest&#38;amp;cdMsgID=Mx237653NKLG0A5#Mx237653NKLG0A5&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.amazon.com/review/R3LDTDRK5RCFTZ/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?ie=UTF8&#38;amp;cdMsgNo=3&#38;amp;cdPage=1&#38;amp;asin=0966016548&#38;amp;store=books&#38;amp;cdSort=oldest&#38;amp;cdMsgID=Mx237653NKLG0A5#Mx237653NKLG0A5&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>Sil the Shill on "The NYC Mosque"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/the-nyc-mosque#post-17778</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sil the Shill</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;For? Against? Indifferent?
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			<title>duncanlecombre on "Fave CT"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/fave-ct#post-18198</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>duncanlecombre</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey just throwing this out there, which CT do you guys think is the most probable, and not ones you have actually happened like Watergate, you know one that you don't believe in or on the fence about.
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			<title>Harbinger1991 on "Spooky hand signals"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/spooky-hand-signals#post-18144</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Harbinger1991</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Whenever a famous person makes a not-so-secret hand signal, like the devil horns or the peace sign, the CTer's go off the wall, claiming that it is proof that they are a member of the Illuminati. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, why are those hand signals associated with the Illuminati in the first place?
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			<title>Muertos on "Interview with a conspiracy theorist."</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/interview-with-a-conspiracy-theorist#post-18228</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Muertos</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;So, today I was interviewed by a guy who is making some sort of documentary on conspiracy theorists vs. skeptics.  I admit I was a little leery at first, but the guy was not combative at all and the interview went pretty smoothly.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;He was interested mostly in JFK assassination stuff, why I'm a debunker, and a few other odds and ends topics such as the journalistic integrity (or lack thereof) of Alex Jones.  Zeitgeist was mentioned, and at one point we got into 9/11 and he was surprised and intrigued to hear about the context of the Silverstein &#34;pull it&#34; quote.  Overall I think it was a productive interview.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;He's promised me an opportunity to back out of the project if I don't like how I'm portrayed in the finished film (he'll show me an advance copy).  Not a lot of CT's would offer that sort of guarantee.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This goes to show, you can have a reasonable discussion with conspiracy believers.
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			<title>aaronmhatch on "Zeigeist idiots commenting on harmless videos"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/zeigeist-idiots-commenting-on-harmless-videos#post-18243</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>aaronmhatch</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I like to watch youtube videos of Beck, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and other liars make fools of themselves. It's sad that one of the highest rated comments has to look like this:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Bush's﻿ brother made the machines that counted the votes.. he wasn't voted in twice... 9/11 was an inside job.. the news has been bought out... its one of the 1000 points of light which are companies and people trying to make a one world government watch zeitgeist and invisible empire and watch Bush praise the 1000 points of light for heading us into a one world gov!!! both movies are on utube!!!!&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*sigh*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;source: &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-F-zmTNuk4&#38;amp;NR=1&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-F-zmTNuk4&#38;amp;NR=1&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>aaronmhatch on "911 Commission Team Leader to speak at my school"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/911-commission-team-leader-to-speak-at-my-school#post-18233</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>aaronmhatch</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I just received this in my e-mail:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.aaronmhatch.com/images/news_Rebovich_farmer_talk.jpg&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.aaronmhatch.com/images/news_Rebovich_farmer_talk.jpg&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm definitely going.
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			<title>Kepp on "Financial Meltdown 101"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/financial-meltdown-101#post-18231</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Kepp</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;How legit is this?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20081108_financial_meltdown_101/?ln&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20081108_financial_meltdown_101/?ln&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have only watched the first video, its short(7:17) I wanted to hear your opinions before watching the rest.
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			<title>Sil the Shill on "Questions you would ask a Conspiracy Theorist"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/questions-you-would-ask-a-conspiracy-theorist#post-18187</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sil the Shill</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;If you were to sit down and have a talk with a non-confrontational conspiracy theorist, what would you ask him? Personally, I think I would really want to know what was the one piece of evidence that 'swayed' them into the conspiracy world. Also, if those CT'ers who are not Christians are aware of the heavy Evangelical influence in all the NWO stuff. I guess some other things I would want to know would be which gurus they believe/don't believe, which other theories they do/don't believe, and what it would take for them to admit that there conspiracy theory is false.
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			<title>Kepp on "The worse part about being a former CT&#039;er"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/the-worse-part-about-being-a-former-cter#post-18219</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Kepp</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Bumping into someone you sent a CT video to in your CT days, and finding out they are now a full blown CT'er because of you. ARGH!!!
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			<title>aaronmhatch on "Chicago Olympics Conspiracy"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/chicago-olympics-conspiracy#post-18221</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>aaronmhatch</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Glenn Beck knew about the corruption behind the done deal between Obama, Chicago, and the Olympics.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE0nEBOcVQ4&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE0nEBOcVQ4&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here's what one of the highest rated comments in this video says:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;The evidence still stands? Nothing has changed. Had Chicago got the Olympics, it would﻿ have been a big corruption case. I wish they had, so the expose' would have happened.
&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This is another case of conspiracy theorists wanting things to happen so they can prove their case.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Another quote:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;Neither Beck nor Severin said it was a done deal. &#34;The things that fired off in my head was 'This is a done deal. He could never be as stupid as to go and not have it as a done deal.' And if we stipulate that for a moment... &#34; It was an initial thought. The only thing that he said is that Obama is stupid for going. And just because he didn't get the Olympics doesn't make this corruption. He TRIED, that is enough to make it wrong.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But go ahead, TYT,﻿ set that straw man up and knock it down.&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;...
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			<title>aaronmhatch on "Proof Bush did 911"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/proof-bush-did-911#post-18216</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>aaronmhatch</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/new-documentary-condoleezza-rice-yelled-at-george-w-bush-on-911/19623348?icid=main&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/new-documentary-condoleezza-rice-yelled-at-george-w-bush-on-911/19623348?icid=main&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;The president was quite annoyed with me, to say the least,&#34; she said.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;AH HAH. He KNEW the White HOUSE was SAFE.
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			<title>Joe on "How are CTers censored???"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/how-are-cters-censored#post-17964</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 03:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Alex Jones it allowed to run his web sites, sell his DVDs and with the premission of the FCC have a radio show. CTers are able to put shit all over the internet with no fear of it being removed. Nexus and other &#34;alteritive news&#34; magizines can be found at stores like Barns and Noble and Hastings. Hundreds of CT books are published and can found at Barns and Noble and Amizon. But yet they are be censored. How?&#60;br /&#62;
If there was some all powerful control group. Gauss what they whould never have been able to get the &#34;truth&#34; out in the first place. Hay if there was such a group there would have not been a internet in the first place.
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			<title>Edward Scissorhands on "In before the CT&#039;s: Space Beam weapons"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/in-before-the-cts-space-beam-weapons#post-18175</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Edward Scissorhands</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZPKJ9TEzDA&#38;amp;feature=player_embedded&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZPKJ9TEzDA&#38;amp;feature=player_embedded&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;6 months ago the USA conducted a trial of a laser weapon to take a missile down off the coast of Canada. It took two minutes total zapping to fully disable the rocket.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am saying CT's like Abe will attempt to use this example as the smoking gun that the USA has the weapons systems already to destroy WTC buildings, and this video is proof.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In first
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			<title>Eric on "Article: The Zeitgeist Movement (on topic)"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/article-the-zeitgeist-movement-on-topic#post-15791</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;This topic was created because the original thread got so ridiculously off topic.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Original: &#60;a href=&#34;http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/article-the-zeitgeist-movement/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/article-the-zeitgeist-movement/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thread rules:&#60;br /&#62;
1) This thread is only to discuss the article&#60;br /&#62;
2) If you want to argue with someone, create a new thread&#60;br /&#62;
3) &#60;strong&#62;No off topic posts!&#60;/strong&#62;
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			<title>aaronmhatch on "W. Cleon Skousen"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/w-cleon-skousen#post-18185</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>aaronmhatch</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;If you haven't read this article, I recommend it. It discusses how Skousen, an ex-FBI man and prominent opponent of communism in the 50s and 60s, helped spread fear of a New World Order and has been part of Glenn Beck's basis for history.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skousen&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skousen&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>Omni-Science on "Double Slit Experiment"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/double-slit-experiment#post-18101</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Omni-Science</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Debunk this please....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>Sil the Shill on "Do you consider the USA to be a terrorist state?"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/do-you-consider-the-usa-to-be-a-terrorist-state#post-17705</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sil the Shill</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Was having a debate with some leftie folks the other day, and they kept bringing up the claim that they believe the USA is no different than terrorist organizations. One of the many claims and quotes they bring up is this one from John Pilger:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;These days, the Americans routinely fire missiles into Fallujah and other dense urban areas; they murder whole families. If the word terrorism has any modern application, it is this industrial state terrorism.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My stance on the subject was that terrorist groups (in the traditional sense) target civilians routinely, and even though civilians may die as a result of US action in (third world country of your choice) it's not part of the official policy or their rules of engagement (as far as I know, which is why I made this thread). Pilger uses the word 'murder' which I think is not right at all since that implies the intent to kill civilians.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;To use 9/11 as an example, what was gained other than the death of civilians? This was not really a military strike. It was a terrorist act. It's like when people (usually the same people that I'm having this mentioned debate with) put the bombings of places like Dresden by the Allies on the same level as Adolf &#38;amp; Company rounding up people and throwing them in death camps. One is a military move to cripple infrastructure or military installations/supplies and the other is the rounding up of your own citizens and civilians of other countries because you believe them to be an inferior race.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They then went on to say that a group like Hezbollah was not a terrorist organization because (for the bombing in Beirut) it had some military significance being an embassy... probably where some plans or personnel were being housed. That one stumped me somewhat. Admittedly, I don't know too much about this which is probably why I was able to be backed up into a corner. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They sent me to this link: &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq13.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq13.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Which I skimmed over, but I was already aware that the United States is/was involved in some pretty shady dealings (especially in Latin America). But is say, supporting a cruel dictator on the same level as directly supporting the death of civilians in the streets via suicide bombings, etc?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So I guess my question is, how would you define 'terrorist' or 'terrorist organization'? And do you consider the USA to be a terrorist organization, why or why not?
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			<title>CyborgJesus on "Help CJ make a decision-Thread"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/help-cj-make-a-decision-thread#post-18176</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>CyborgJesus</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Sorry if I'm a bit to self helpy in here - I had a similar thread on TZM and I'm still not one bit further.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My &#34;job&#34; (check mail, check stats, check mail, answer mail, check stats) is pretty decent, but far from doing something I'm actually proud of.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have three options that I came up with so far:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1) Put my money into a foundation, try to develop new economic paradigms that can build the basis for an actual social movement for change.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2) Put my money into advertising, education or expansion and make more money. Repeat.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;3) Pay an attorney and move all my assets offshore. Buy a nice home for me and my boys and relax for a year.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I like 1 most, but have no idea how to do it.&#60;br /&#62;
I like 2 least, but I know pretty sure how to do it and who to call when I have problems.&#60;br /&#62;
3 seems fairly complex, but doable. Dunno if I'd enjoy doing nothing though, or be back to good ol' bad habits after a month.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Show some compassion to your savior throw in your thoughts.
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			<title>Elm (Nehmara) Grand Rapids on "Airport body scanners and conspiracy theories"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/airport-body-scanners-and-conspiracy-theories#post-18083</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Elm (Nehmara) Grand Rapids</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I don't know if this has been posted before but there is a lot of contention around the new body scanners that are being installed across the globe that allow the TSA agents to pretty much view someone &#34;naked&#34; Now from the reports that I have read it seems that the images are not as graphic as some people are making it out to be. I have seen some of these pictures and while some do seem high definition you really can't see all that much.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now I have my own contentions and mixed feelings about this and I do find them somewhat invasive&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But of course all of the NWO conspiracy theorists are all up in arms about this and that it is a &#34;sure sign&#34; that the NWO is being implemented and that they are slowly desensitizing us to be &#34;cattle&#34; their term, not mine, and that we are blindly allowing them to further erode our rights, privacy, and individuality.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Does anyone really think that there is such a thing as a New World Order that is being put into place? Is it even possible to have a &#34;New World Order?&#34; And are these body scanners really that bad and detrimental?
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			<title>Sil the Shill on "Brought to you by those crazy ads on the side."</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/brought-to-you-by-those-crazy-ads-on-the-side#post-18123</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sil the Shill</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I, like most of you use an ad blocker so normally I would be spared from all the stuff on the side, but I was using another computer that did not have ad blockers and I came across this little thing.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.trueimmortals.net/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.trueimmortals.net/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;There are real immortals in the world.  They are not supernatural: They just do not get old. They live in hiding among us&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Oooh, spooky! They even have a 'What we know so far' page:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.trueimmortals.net/?page_id=301&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.trueimmortals.net/?page_id=301&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here is their section on conspiracy theories: &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.trueimmortals.net/?cat=42&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.trueimmortals.net/?cat=42&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;I just realized that “Trilateral Commission” is an anagram for “Cast-iron Immortal Lies.” Does this strike any of you as disturbing? — Glenn&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I believe the whole gist of the website is that &#34;The already-immortal are seeking to suppress a project intended to provide physical immortality to everyone.&#34; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Whole lotta crazy to sift through, has anyone encountered this nonsense before? It's definitely my first time.
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			<title>No_Heros on "www.jackbloodforum.com"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/wwwjackbloodforumcom#post-18155</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>No_Heros</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Not spam, just getting bored in this forum (www.jackbloodforum.com)so I figured we could start a war.  These people are not nice but being mean is a game.  All sorts of CT's in here... you could invite them over here too.  I enjoy debate.
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			<title>aaronmhatch on "Undebunked"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/undebunked#post-18145</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>aaronmhatch</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;If you haven't seen this before...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://undebunked.wordpress.com/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://undebunked.wordpress.com/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's basically another conspiracy blog.
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			<title>Sil the Shill on "Conspiracy Science? No, Conspiracy of Science!"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/conspiracy-science-no-conspiracy-of-science#post-18099</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sil the Shill</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;What 'they' don't want you to know, the Earth is actually GROWING!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.maniacworld.com/Conspiracy-of-Science.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.maniacworld.com/Conspiracy-of-Science.html&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>CyborgJesus on "http://buildingwhat.org/"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/httpbuildingwhatorg#post-18078</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 02:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>CyborgJesus</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just got a link from a Zeitguy, does anybody know anything about it?
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			<title>Special Ed on "Beat Off: Mexican plane crash"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/beat-off-mexican-plane-crash#post-18112</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Special Ed</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;So, a plane crash of Mexican politicians, I have a feeling this will be false flag if it gets big enough in the news. Anyone have a news article, please post it, I saw it on TV and can't seem to find an article right this moment.
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			<title>aaronmhatch on "Rush Limbaugh insinuated an African American conspiracy"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/rush-limbaugh-insinuated-an-african-american-conspiracy#post-18049</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>aaronmhatch</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiLVTzljOjA&#38;amp;feature=channel&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiLVTzljOjA&#38;amp;feature=channel&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In this video, Rush talks about how Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, President Obama, and Acorn have been working for years to get the poor African Americans angry and militant.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now, The Young Turks guy asks what a conspiracy such as this would accomplish. By somehow breeding hatred among the African Americans, wouldn't it act as a catalyst for the Blacks to rise up? I can see a motive here, even if the conspiratorial nature is implausible.
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			<title>Sil the Shill on "MAN THE BUNKERS!"</title>
			<link>http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/man-the-bunkers#post-18077</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sil the Shill</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh, and don't forget to activate the Sentry Shotgun Robot!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.asylum.com/2010/08/31/survival-shelter-chad-person/?ncid=webmail&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.asylum.com/2010/08/31/survival-shelter-chad-person/?ncid=webmail&#60;/a&#62;
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