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PookztAPosted: Aug 08, 2010 - 21:01
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Dear Fellow 9/11 Truth Supporter,

My name is Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez, and I am a medical student. Throughout my rigorous undergraduate science and medical science coursework, I have had the privilege of receiving extensive training in the process of scientific analysis and evidence-based thinking.

I am writing to you today not only as a medical student, but also as a concerned American citizen, to ask for your help with something very important.

Have you heard of Dr. Judy Wood? Did you know she has been researching 9/11 since 2001 and has already filed several law suits against NIST’s contractors for science fraud, and legal requests that NIST’s fraudulent data gets reexamined? Dr. Judy Wood has received more than one threat due to the research she has done and the evidence she has gathered, and one of her students was also murdered in 2006. Surprisingly, Dr. Judy Wood is the only 9/11 researcher who has submitted evidence to the courts in pursuit of the truth.

I. Dr. Judy Wood filed several legal cases against NIST’s contractors in 2007, some of which are military / defense / weapons organizations. The filings in these legal cases included Requests For Corrections (RFC) based on the Data Quality Act, and Qui Tam whistle-blower cases. One of her legal cases made it all the way to the Supreme Court in October of 2009. She has been actively pursuing 9/11 Truth with her lawyer, despite the lack of support she has received from Dr. Steven Jones and other members of the 9/11 Truth community. The legal documents from her court cases can be viewed at the following links:

1. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html<br /> 2. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.shtml

II. Dr. Judy Wood has collected an overwhelming amount of evidence which suggests that a Directed Energy Weapon of some kind was used to powderize (‘dustify’) the primary steel and concrete portions of the WTC buildings, while burning and bending aluminum, yet leaving paper and many other materials unharmed. These characteristics are matched by those of "The Hutchison Effect", and are the result of "field effects" and energy interference. John Hutchison has filed an affidavit in Dr. Wood's court case, to legally testify to the numerous similarities between The Hutchison Effect and the 9/11 attacks.

III. Dr. Judy Wood received her B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering), M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia. Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental method to measure thermal stresses in bi-material joints. She has taught courses including: Experimental Stress Analysis, Engineering Mechanics, Mechanics of Materials (Strength of Materials), Strength of Materials Testing.

1. Dr. Judy Wood, Ph.D - 'The New Hiroshima' Presentation (Part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1JFCpFd6CA /> 2. Dr. Judy Wood’s evidence-packed website: http://www.drjudywood.com
3. A very important, related website: http://www.checktheevidence.com

IV. Here are some very important video documentaries discussing the reality of The Hutchison Effect and other suppressed technologies, such as Cold Fusion, Anti-Gravity, and Military Energy Weapon Technology, which are related to 9/11:

1. John Hutchison & The Hutchison Effect (Documentary | 68mins): http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5866006842090712676 /> 2. Heavy Watergate: The Cold Fusion Cover Up (Documentary | 45mins): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6562030534380820378 /> 3. Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist of Lockheed Martin, on The Hutchison Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZKTA7nx8U /> 4. Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist of Lockheed Martin, on Anti-Gravity Technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNesaRUoJo /> 5. Colonel Tom Bearden on Military Energy Weapon Technology (1985) similar to The Hutchison Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MovpYUD7fTY

V. It is important to consider the fact that Dr. Wood has been putting forth legal efforts, in addition to scientific efforts, to pursue 9/11 Truth, yet Dr. Jones has not even submitted his nano-thermite evidence to NIST, nor to the courts. Dr. Judy Wood was once a highly involved member of Dr. Steven Jones’s group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, but Dr. Jones suddenly expelled her from the group long ago, simply because he disagreed with her conclusion that some form of Directed Energy Weapon was used to destroy the World Trade Center buildings. They both should be working together, but instead, Dr. Jones speaks negatively of Dr. Wood because he disagrees with her conclusions, even though her conclusions are strongly supported by scientific evidence. Since Dr. Wood’s conclusions are based on an enormous amount of scientific evidence, it is important that we examine this evidence for ourselves as well.

VI. After reviewing this evidence, it seems very possible to me that Dr. Jones is solely focusing on the nano-thermite theory in order to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement, to prevent us from finding out the true criminals behind 9/11, and the true cause of 9/11, which is related to Cold Fusion, Free Energy, and Energy Weapon Technology. Yes, the nano-thermite theory does account for some of the evidence, but it most certainly does not account for all of it.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin

VII. Please review the following evidence regarding Dr. Steven Jones, so that you can become familiar with all of the evidence that has led myself, and many others, to conclude that Dr. Steven Jones is purposely misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement. First he interfered with the Cold Fusion / Free Energy movement, and now it seems he is interfering with the 9/11 Truth Movement. Please review these links thoroughly, and with an open-mind, before drawing any conclusions:

1. ‘Hoax exposes incompetence or worse at a Bentham Open Access journal’: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2009/06/hoax-exposes-incompetence-or-worse-at.html
2. ‘Bentham Open editor-in-chief resigns after fake paper is accepted for publication’: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2009/06/bentham-editors-resign.html
3. ‘A Peer-review of Dr. Jones’s Research’: http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=trouble_with_jones /> 4. ‘Steven Jones, Cold Fusion, & the Free Energy cover up’: http://drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/JJ7.html<br /> 5. ‘Steven Jones helped cover up Cold Fusion, and now 9/11 Truth’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lASyX1SP2UM /> 6. ‘The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis’: http://drjudywood.com/articles/scientific/JonesScientificMethod.html<br /> 7. ‘Steven Jones' Contributions to Science, Humanity and the Planet’: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/cc/CB.html<br /> 8. ‘WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?’ http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=60 /> 9. ‘Thermite and Glowing Liquid Aluminum’ http://drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html#Thermite<br /> 10. ‘Steven Jones and the WTC “Spire” video’ (2min 35sec): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNlpevwG8aQ /> 11. ‘No Thermite Used on 9/11’ by Andrew Johnson: http://911thermitefree.blogspot.com/

VIII. Here are some important questions to ask ourselves when comparing the conclusions of Dr. Steve Jones and Dr. Judy Wood:

• How come steel and concrete were pulverized, aluminum had electrical burns, but paper was unharmed? Nano-thermite and heat do not selectively damage certain materials, so how come thousands and thousands of paper sheets were completely unharmed?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come there are many reports of power outages and electrical failures in the areas surrounding ground zero during the attacks?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, where is all the molten steel? Thousands of pictures, yet not a single one shows large quantities of molten steel?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come the resulting steel and concrete dust clouds were not hot enough to burn the people it coated nor to set adjacent buildings on fire?
• If thermite alone caused the ‘collapses’, how come there was significant magnetosphere readings in Alaska at the very same time of the 9/11 attacks?
• Why was the Alaskan magnetosphere normal until immediately before and during the 9/11 attacks, when there was suddenly a huge surge in electromagnetic activity?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero experienced metal warping and electricity-like burns and holes during the attacks, even though they were not exposed to thermite?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero were flipped upside down or on their side?
• How come Dr. Wood has already filed several legal cases against suspected 9/11-involved defense and weapons companies and NIST, yet Dr. Jones has not?
• How come Dr. Wood has already been taking legal steps towards demanding a new 9/11 investigation, yet Dr. Jones does not support her legal efforts?
• How come Dr. Jones has not officially filed or shared his nano-thermite evidence with Congress, NIST, or any official governmental body? Why the delay?
• Why is Dr. Jones just now claiming to be “pursuing a new 9/11 investigation” when Dr. Judy Wood has already filed many legal cases to pursue such an investigation, one which made it to the Supreme Court?
• Why isn’t Dr. Jones and his affiliates supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal efforts to pursue 9/11 Truth, regardless of whether or not they agree on a theory?
• Why did Dr. Jones ban Dr. Wood from his ‘Scholars for 9/11 Truth’ group just because they had different conclusions about what destroyed the towers?
• Shouldn’t we all be supporting the 9/11 investigation that Dr. Judy Wood has already demanded with her legal cases, even if we do not agree with her conclusions?
• Why was I removed from the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition simply for asking Richard Gage to examine the research of Dr. Judy Wood?
• I have donated over $100 to AE911Truth, so why was I silently removed from the petition simply for bringing up Dr. Judy Wood to Richard Gage?
• Why did United States Army Major Doug Rokke spontaneously contact me to try and convince me to stop talking about Dr. Judy Wood and Energy Weapons?

IX. If you would like to personally email Dr. Judy Wood to discuss this matter further and possibly collaborate with her to more effectively bring out the truth regarding 9/11 by supporting her law suits and her research, here is her email address, which is also available on the top of her website (Dr. Wood has been swamped with emails lately, so there might be some delay in her reply.): lisajudy@nctv.com

X. Also, I should let you know that I recently messaged Richard Gage and AE911Truth to ask him if he knew about Dr. Judy Wood, and as a result, I have been removed from the Petition Signers list on AE911Truth.org, despite the fact that I have donated over $100 dollars to Richard Gage and his organization over the past several months. As of the morning of March 4th, my name was removed from the AE911Truth petition, so it appears that I have been removed from the petition simply for asking about Dr. Judy Wood. This is very concerning, because I have not done anything wrong by asking Richard Gage to talk to Dr. Judy Wood and consider her research, yet AE911Truth.org has removed me from their petition simply for asking about her once in a private email. In addition, Richard Gage has never replied to any of my emails over the past several months, not even one of them, but Dr. Judy Wood has responded to several of my emails in just the last week. Oddly enough, Dr. Wood predicted that Richard Gage and Dr. Jones would ‘blacklist’ me for mentioning her, and she was right.

XI. Also, Major Doug Rokke from the U.S. Army contacted me recently and is trying to convince me that only nano-thermite or other explosives were used on 9/11, but NOT energy weapons. He refuses to acknowledge the existence of highly-advanced Energy Weapon Technology, other than lasers, that are possessed by the military-industrial complex. He does not want to meet with me in public, but insists that I come meet him at his private dwelling just outside of Urbana-Champaign. He has contacted me because I have recently been spreading information about Dr. Wood, and he insists that we meet in “private” so he can “show me something” related to proving that nano-thermite or other explosives were used on the WTC buildings, but not energy weapons. I’m not going to meet with him, because I asked Dr. Wood about him and apparently he is trying to cover up her work. Major Doug Rokke attended one of Dr. Judy Wood’s “New Hiroshima” presentations, and he sat in the front rows and repeatedly attempted to disrupt her, interrupt her, and yell unprofessional statements throughout her lecture to try and discredit her research. This is one reason I am not meeting with him. Another reason I am not meeting with him is because I recently contacted one of my Deans that I trust, and she said that Major Doug Rokke was fired from the University of Illinois a long time ago for claiming he was a professor, when in fact he is not. Apparently he has a long history of lies and deceit, so my Dean strongly suggested that I do not meet with him, and she is already making some calls about him given this recent information.

XII. Lastly, I recently tried to add Dr. Judy Wood's name to the list of 9/11 researchers on the ‘9/11 Truth Movement’ Wikipedia page, but I was censored for simply trying to add her name, and when I tried to appeal the decision, a small group of moderators controlled the discussion and told me to stop appealing it or my account would be locked. According to Wikipedia policy, deletion-appeal discussions are to remain open for public comment and review for 5-7 days before a final decision is made, but my appeal was given a final decision by a small group of rude admins within 12 hours of the onset of my appeal, and the discussion was prematurely closed. After some research, I realized this was a violation of Wikipedia's policy, so I appealed it again, and my account was locked as a result, so that I could not contribute to any more Wikipedia pages or start any more discussions. Before my account got locked, I was also censored by the same small group of admins for trying to create a Wikipedia page in honor of Dr. Judy Wood's selfless 9/11 research and legal efforts, just like I have been censored by countless other 9/11 "Truth" organizations and forums all over the world simply for mentioning Dr. Judy Wood. These organizations are corrupt and are censoring information about Dr. Judy Wood, because they are not seeking the truth, and this small group of Wikipedia admins seem to be a part of this censorship. You can read all the details and see actual screen shots of my Wikipedia incident here: http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=283&Itemid=60

XIII. To view more informative videos on the subjects mentioned in this outline, please visit my YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/pookzta

I strongly support the 9/11 Truth Movement as a whole and I definitely think we all need to work together to share ideas and information, so I truly hope that you will consider collaborating with Dr. Judy Wood in addition to Dr. Steven Jones, so we can all work together to bring about real 9/11 truth and justice. Even if Dr. Wood’s conclusions do not resonate with you, we are all still pursuing truth and justice regarding 9/11, and therefore we need to work together. It is very concerning to me that Dr. Jones has chosen to outcast Dr. Wood simply because he does not agree with her conclusions, when he should be supporting her many legal cases. If Dr. Jones is indeed misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement, he needs to be exposed so that this movement can continue to make progress and move forward.

Update: Ex-Soviet military intelligence officer Dimitri Khalezov recently contacted me to try and convince me that only nuclear devices were used to bring down the WTC buildings, but NOT energy weapons. He told me he thinks Dr. Wood is 'wrong' in her conclusion, but he could not provide any proof of this, plus his nuclear demolition theory did not even come close to explaining as much of the evidence as Dr. Wood's conclusion. Odd. To learn more about my encounter with Dimitri Khalezov, please check out this link: http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=290&Itemid=60

Please let me know how what you think about all this.

Thank you for your time, consideration, and help,

-Abe

Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M2 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology

(you can view the original facebook copy of my outline here: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=393090521816 )

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PookztAPosted: Aug 08, 2010 - 21:08
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moderators please note that I did indeed read the rules, and this is not a "drive-by" post. I am a very busy person but I intend on checking in on this thread whenever I can find free time in my busy medical school schedule, to reply to posts to the best of my ability. Please be patient with my replies.

Thanks for letting me have an account here,

-Abe

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MuertosPosted: Aug 08, 2010 - 21:46
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Dr. Judy Wood is a kook, pure and simple. She believes super duper space beams from Darth Vader's star destroyer blew up the World Trade Center.

We have dealt with space beams nonsense before. I suggest, Pazootka or whatever your name is, that before you post further on this topic, you read this blog on the subject of 9/11 space beams:

http://conspiracyscience.com/blog/2010/05/12/debunking-by-invitation-star-wars-beam-weapons-and-911/

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Aug 08, 2010 - 22:13
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Cold fusion wasn't a cover up. Fusion at room temperature likely isn't possible, the experiment was duplicated hundreds of times all over the world and no one could get it to work. There wasn't some massive cover up where every single scientist from the announcement of cold fusion until today was hiding behind it. At least the "free energy" topic is fusion and not some weird ass perpetual motion machine.

The concept isn't too difficult, with a bit of knowledge in chemistry and/or physics, you can duplicate and test it yourself. If there was a real cover up for non-oil based forms of energy, then I guess the anti-nuclear parts of the environmental movement are in the hands of oil companies, but it doesn't explain how solar power ever managed to take off, or how huge amounts of progress has been made in that field in the last 20 years.

If cold fusion were possible, the demand for heavy water would go through the roof, and in order to "harvest" that heavy water you need a lot of power, and guess who could provide it? Oil and coal companies. Obviously at a point much of the power would be provided by the cold fusion itself, fair enough, but what about all the plastics we need? Where will people get their leisure suits? My Dawn dish soap? etc. The oil industry (and by extension coal, because coal can be converted into oil) is in no danger of going out of business from an outside competitor, their only enemy is that oil/coal is a finite resource.

And of course I'm skeptical of John Hutchison's claims, most notably because he refuses to share them and because he tends to have a hard time duplicating them himself -- in fact he's even admitted to not "reproducing the effect" since 1991.

Remember, there's really no such thing as "free" energy, as you can't create energy, only change it. The idea you can get infinite energy out of something is just silly.

Ex-Soviet military intelligence officer Dimitri Khalezov recently contacted me to try and convince me that only nuclear devices were used to bring down the WTC buildings, but NOT energy weapons. He told me he thinks Dr. Wood is 'wrong' in her conclusion, but he could not provide any proof of this, plus his nuclear demolition theory did not even come close to explaining as much of the evidence as Dr. Wood's conclusion.

There's no radioactivity at ground zero or signs of radiation poisoning in anyone, so that's total bullshit. Neither Khalezov or Wood provide or can provide any solid evidence of their claims. Anecdotes do not equal evidence.

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SkyPosted: Aug 08, 2010 - 23:29
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This guy posts this same essay all over the internet:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=%22My+name+is+Abraham+Hafiz+Rodriguez%2C+and+I+am+a+medical+student.%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=8631cdd35a4d476d

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Sil the ShillPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 02:04
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Nice find sky. My advice if he's not a spambot would be to apply the same level of scrutiny to Judy Kooky Beams Wood as you do to Steven Gage.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 02:45
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Regardless, these are topics we should cover.

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:16
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Muertos, I love how you refer to Dr. Wood as a kook, even though she is the ONLY 9/11 researcher to put forth a conclusion which explains all the evidence. Thousands of photos, graphs, videos, and documents, all of which must be explained by one cohesive, simple conclusion. If you can explain the evidence found at www.drjudywood.com with a more simple conclusion than Dr. Wood, than please do, but until then, no one else has explained all the evidence except for her, and that is why I support her.

Furthermore, in the "debunking" post you linked to, you do not even address evidence. You primarily focus on blogs and claims made by Dr. Babs, yet you never take the time to actually address the HOARDS of evidence found at www.drjudywood.com. Amazes me how people can be so unscientific in their analysis of evidence, sometimes completely ignoring evidence, and then making bold un-backed claims like "Dr. Wood is a kook". From first glance, it is you who appears to be a kook, because Dr. Wood is explaining evidence, where as you are calling people names.

Dr. Wood is the ONLY 9/11 researcher who has put forth a conclusion which explains all the evidence, plus she made this conclusion BEFORE finding out about The Hutchison Effect. That is why I support her, and I would be a poor scientist if I supported anyone else's less-explanatory theory, such as yours. We only can do one thing, view the evidence and attempt to explain it all with the simplest conclusion possible, and the only successful conclusion which explains all the evidence, is that of Dr. Judy Wood.

Address the evidence please. If you are claiming that Dr. Wood is a 'kook' and is 'wrong', then please explain to me what evidence she is wrong about and why. If there are points of evidence on her website that you feel she is wrong about, then please bring them up and explain why she is wrong about them. In the mean time, referring to Dr. Wood as a 'kook' is nothing more than a subjective opinion you are pushing, which shows just how unscientific and biased you truly are.

Good day,

-Abe

Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M2 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:19
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Damn right I post all over the internet. I am concerned about my country, and I am not ashamed of it.

You can view my facebook profile here: http://facebook.com/AbrahamHafizRodriguez, or if you ever want to chat on 1 on 1, you can email me at pookzta@gmail.com.

I am not hiding from anyone, so if you have a concern, then please contact me.

Peace,

-Abe

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:22
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Special Ed, those retired military people contacted me to try and convince me that only explosives were used on 9/11, and that Dr. Judy Wood is wrong. They did not provide proof of this, but they tried to convince me to stop talking about her anyway.

I find it very odd that two retired military officers are trying to convince me that only explosives were used on 9/11, and that Dr. Judy Wood's conclusion (the only conclusion which explains ALL the evidence) is wrong, yet they won't even provide proof to back up their claims...

...I wonder why these high-ranking retired military officials have randomly contacted me, an insignificant medical student, when they should be contacting members of Congress and other high-ranking members of our government...?

Please address the evidence in my outline or the evidence at www.drjudywood.com. Speculation and personal opinions, especially name-calling, will not receive much of a reply from me in the future.

Cheers,

-Abe

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Sil the ShillPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:22
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Sidebar: I went to Judy Wood's website actually expecting it to not have the typical CT website layout, boy was I wrong.

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AnoukPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:33
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Oh god. We have an intruder amongst us. Just kidding. ;)

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SkyPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:36
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Jesus, Abe sounds like a Judy Wood salesman or something. What is Judy Wood's website again? I don't think I caught it the first 15 times he linked it.

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SkyPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:47
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Judy Wood is really funny:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-558096240694803017#0h6m4s <--Skip to 6 minutes in.

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KeppPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 15:59
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Are beam weapons like alien tech?

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SkyPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 16:03
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No, it's more like Keebler Elf tech:

If the tower is viewed as a "towering tree" and the Keebler Elves carved out a residence, no measurable weakening would occur. If their cookie oven set fire to the tree, it would be inconsequential.

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html

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MuertosPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 16:19
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Dr. Wood is the ONLY 9/11 researcher who has put forth a conclusion which explains all the evidence...

Totally false.

Dr. Judy Kook Wood's theory that super duper Darth Vader laser blasters blew up the WTC towers:

+ Cannot explain use of planes (why the artifice of fake plane crashes if what you're using is a beam weapon?).
+ Leaves most facts unexplained or unaddressed, such as the physical evidence of planes found at the scene..
+ Central feature (beam weapons) relies upon evidence that has never been found (namely, evidence of beam weapons).
+ Rejected by the entire scientific/professional community.
+ Cannot explain why witnesses on the scene predicted tower collapse before it happened.
+ Cannot account for evidence demonstrating the guilt of Mohammed Atta and other hijackers without resort to conjecture unrelated to the central feature of the theory (beam weapons).
+ Cannot explain why Osama bin Laden confessed.
+ Cannot explain why WTC7 collapsed without resort to conjecture (meaning, speculation on why WTC7 was a primary target and why, if it was, planes were not used to strike it).
+ Cannot identify guilty parties without resort to pure conjecture both as to identities and as to motives.
+ Requires participation of vast numbers of people in uncoordinated, non-cohesive groups, extremely likely to have given themselves away before attacks carried out.
“Evidence” in support comes only from small fringe sources (Dr. Kook Wood's website).
+ Illogical, farfetched, requires great leap of imagination even to conceive as possible.

Show me where Dr. Judy Kook Wood addresses ANY of these issues with actual evidence and not speculation.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 17:08
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"Special Ed, those retired military people contacted me to try and convince me that only explosives were used on 9/11, and that Dr. Judy Wood is wrong. They did not provide proof of this, but they tried to convince me to stop talking about her anyway."

Made up story or bored military personal starting truther fights? We report, you decide.

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KeppPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 18:13
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Do people really want so badly for 911 to have been an inside job that they resort to beam weapon theories?

At what point do you tell yourself, "This stuff is starting to sound crazy, let me rethink my CT beliefs"?

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 18:45
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Amazes me how many people still deny obvious things.

First of all, that Greg Jenkins interview was an ambush interview. He ambushed Dr. Wood at a conference that was not even about her, after the conference was over, and somehow he already had a camera crew and lights with him, weird eh? Funny how he brings a black and white image to talk about, rather than high resolution color photos, or graphs, or countless other pieces of data found on Dr. Wood's website. The questions and his demeanor throughout that interview speaks for itself, and you can view some of the highlights of Greg Jenkins's agenda being exposed in that interview. Check it out...

Dr. Greg Jenkins Exposed During Ambush Interview of Dr. Judy Wood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpLbzLzY9HY

One thing many people try to deny is that the Steel and Concrete portions of the Twin Towers were primarily turned to dust. They were in fact turned to dust, while aluminum was either bent or burnt, while paper was unharmed. Weird how this same falling dust and building debris can cause 1,400+ cars to become 'toasted', while not burning the hundreds of people it coated in the streets, as some people try to suggest. Look:

What Turned The Twin Towers To DUST on 9/11? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGXDmNZCeKo

Also, some folks still think that large airliners hit the buildings. This makes me laugh, because hollow aluminum planes do not simply disappear into steel buildings without at LEAST losing a wing piece or tail section, which would have snapped off and fallen to the ground, because Aluminum is several magnitudes softer than steel. Instead, these entire fragile "airliners" disappeared into these steel buildings, defying the laws of physics. The media fakery used on that day is very obvious, and here is a quick compilation video which shows just some examples of how obvious the TV Fakery is.

Did Large Airliners Really Hit The Buildings on 9/11? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gujn4jMGgIE

Lastly, I do not think 9/11 was an "inside job". I do not think our government did 9/11. I think some people within our government most likely played a role in helping it happen, but overall, I do not think that our government organized 9/11 or even allowed it to happen. It is far more likely that a small group of terrorists (not Osama Bin Laden nor Al Qaeda) did this, and blamed it on Osama Bin Laden using their media connections. One such possibility, is that Israel's Mossad did this. I am not a conspiracy theorist so I do not point fingers unless there is conclusive proof, but I do admit that it is very possible. Look...

A 10-year U.S. Marine veteran and a Ph.D Professor at the University of Michigan who graduated from the U.S. Army War College, has concluded that there is overwhelming evidence suggesting that the Israeli Mossad carried out the attacks of 9/11, using corporate media connections to blame it on Arabs, to send the U.S. into war in the Middle East. Please see here: http://911falseflagarchive.blogspot.com/2010/03/dr-alan-sabrosky-former-director-of_19.html and here: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/19/22329/</p>

I hope this information helps to clarify where I am coming from, and if it does not, please continue to ask questions or look into the evidence for yourself.

Thanks for discussing this folks.

In peace,

-Abe

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MuertosPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 18:50
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Lastly, some folks still think that large airliners hit the buildings. This makes me laugh, because hollow aluminum planes do not simply disappear into steel buildings without at LEAST losing a wing piece of tail section, which would have snapped off and fallen to the ground.

Oh, you mean like this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/WtcUA175debris.jpg<br /> (debris of UAL175 found on the roof of WTC5, specifically a piece of fuselage)

Or this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Landing_gear_aa11.jpg
(AA11 landing gear found on the street below the WTC)

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 18:54
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Muertos, not only did you ignore a majority of the evidence I just shared (you are dwelling on only the no-airliner topic while ignoring the other topics), but furthermore, you must not have even read what I wrote, because I never denied the lack of plane wreckage, I simply said that planes do not disappear into the buildings without a tail piece or wing piece sheering off in the process and falling TO THE GROUND. The only plane wreckage I have ever seen photographed on the ground near the twin towers is one small piece of landing gear, which is surprising because the landing gear is the stronger portion of the plane. If one piece of landing gear sheered off and fell to the ground, why didn't the wings snap off and fall to the ground too? That is what the laws of physics tells us should have happened.

Please read my posts more carefully, and please addresse ALL the evidence, not just some of it.

Thank you,

-Abe

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:00
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Muertos, keep calling her a kook, it only shows how biased, unfair, and hateful you really are. It would be one thing to attack her evidence and conclusions and to show why you think she is wrong, but it is a whole different thing to just keep referring to her as a "kook" just because you disagree with her conclusions. You are showing me how immature, unscientific, and unprofessional you really are.

Please tone down the needless hatred and disrespect.

Thanks,

-Abe

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SkyPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:02
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I don't care about this Greg Jenkins guy, I think he and Judy Wood are both crackpots, I just posted the video to show how wacky Judy Wood is.

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:04
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Sky,

I guess you are saying that the brave veterans of VeteransToday.com are also kooks?

I guess you are also saying that Dr. Alan Sabrosky, a 10-year U.S. Marine veteran and a Ph.D Professor at the University of Michigan who graduated from the U.S. Army War College, is also a kook?

How can you make such claims without providing proof? Doesn't that make you rather kooky yourself?

You are entitled to your opinion, but for the sake of discussion, let's try to be scientific and analytical here, not opinionated and biased. Evidence is all we need to discuss, not your personal opinions of people.

Please try to be more mature during this discussion.

Thank you,

-Abe

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KeppPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:10
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"One such possibility, is that Israel's Mossad did this."

Even beam weapon theories eventually lead to the Jews.

"frickin' Jews with frickin' laser beams attached to their frickin' yarmulke's"

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:13
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who said anything about Jews? Israeli Mossad is an intelligence organization like our CIA, so I bet there are Christian Israelis in the Mossad just as well as Jewish Israelis, don't you? No one is blaming anything on "The Jews", so please do not put words in my mouth, or in Dr. Alan Sabrosky's for that matter. Let's try to be as accurate as possible here.

Thanks.

Gotta go for a while, peace guys and gals, thanks for discussing and sharing your views.

Cya,

-Abe

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KeppPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:19
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Bullshit, when a CT'er references Israel, he is referencing Jews.

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PookztAPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:28
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Kepp,

I guess you know what I mean better than I do? Let me clarify my beliefs for you since you are having problems understanding where I am coming from.

I respect all people in this world, including Israelis. They earned their right to be there by surviving the wars long ago.

Again, I respect all people in this world, because all people are innocent until proven guilty in my book. There are good Christians, and bad Christians. There are good Muslims, and bad Muslims. There are good Jews, and bad Jews. There are good Atheists, and bad Atheists. There are good people, and there are bad people.

Bad people did 9/11. Some of them might have been Jews, some of them might have been Christians, and some of them might have been Atheists. I have nothing against "The Jews", and to imply that I am racist, or that Dr. Alan Sabrosky is racist, shows how speculative and judgemental you are. You are implying that Dr. Alan Sabrosky is racist just because he concluded that the Israeli Mossad organized 9/11, yet you provide no proof or evidence to support your accusation. Accusations without evidence or proof, are unscientific, unprofessional, and immature.

Please stop assuming things. If you have a question for me, just ask it, but please do not try to imply that I am racist just because I think it is POSSIBLE that Dr. Alan Sabrosky is right.

I believe in innocence until proven guilty, so please do not forget that.

Thanks, and have a good evening.

-Abe

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anticultistPosted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:29
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Brainwashing you for money

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No Planer alert ! beep beep

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